Thursday 07/31/2014 by Icculus

PORTSMOUTH2: OLD SCHOOL SWAGGER CONTINUES

IT thrills you, IT inspires you, IT enthralls you, IT fulfills you! IT flowns your balls! When a Phish show does IT for you, you experience a joy so profound that most if not all of your life's most significant events seem small by comparison. You may even consider changing your life to prioritize music, or at least your love of it.

Phish's music had this power for many fans in Portsmouth, and it continues to have this power right now, even after several decades and over 1600 performances—particularly as those of you fortunate enough to be at MPP four days ago know! For those whose love of Phish includes an appreciation of Phish’s most widely-acclaimed shows, and an interest in why one seemingly-amazing show gets more praise (or less praise) from some fans than another seemingly-amazing show, this post’s $0.02 are for you. Because in light of your 100+ wonderful comments to Jeremy Goodwin’s excellent MPP2 post, it’s apparent that many of you aren’t too upset when “recaps” are about more than just last night’s show.

Photo © Parker Harrington

It is precisely because every Phish show is GREAT, on multiple levels for many reasons (e.g., your usually kind fellow fans; band<->fan interaction; number of songs played over multiple sets; the lights, sound and "vibe;" the volume of drug smoke), that the "average" show is necessarily GREAT. Indeed, all or nearly all of the Phish shows you have attended have had good if not excellent sound, stupendous lights (Kuroda’s light-designing is genius), as well as an energizing "vibe" preshow, if not also throughout the set break, second set, and encore. And over the course of their history, Phish has performed well together routinely from the start through the (e).

Differentiating one show's characteristics and highlights from another, and positing one show over another for whatever reason(s), is thus an easily-criticizable, intensely-subjective, often silly hair-splitting exercise. Every Phish show is GREAT in often many ways, and even in COUNTLESS ways if you incorporate the depths of the souls of those forever inspired by the music. Think about that for a second.

Every show. Every show moves SOMEONE in a transcendent manner, at least in part if not for several hours. But, at the same time, the music of any given song, when compared with versions previously performed, is not always as “great” as it has been. It may even be flawed in ways that are objective, and not subjective (such as missed lyrics, notes, chords, changes, etc.).

What constitutes an above—or below—“average Phish show” in your view?

Photo © Andrea Nusinov

Some fans prioritize tightly-played, mostly-if-not-wholly composed songs over songs that improvise and the improvisation that they contain—improvisation that can either "click" and "gel" like melodious, composed music (see, e.g., the jam in the 7/26 MPP “Ghost”), or aimlessly meander, as if in a fetid pool, teeming with faeces of unusual size. In fact, some fans couldn't care less if a song that doesn't jam is played well or not, because they claim not to care for such songs, and it's only Phish's improvisational risk-taking that matters to them, even when the jams do NOT "click," because the band still deserves immense respect for taking the risk. Indeed, some fans don't even "count" Phish's first sets at all, unless something noteworthy occurs, because they view only second sets as typically containing any music worth hearing again in them.

Is the fan who prefers tight songs to improv wrong? Is the fan who largely disregards first sets wrong? Is the fan who only cares about jams wrong? Is the fan who loves everything unconditionally in the moment at the show—who couldn't care less about ever hearing the show again—wrong? Of course not! We love what we love, be it Phish-related or not, and all that matters is what music means the most to you. And as for me, I'm somewhere in the middle, or under, or above, all of those viewpoints, more or less. Why?

Because an "average-great" Phish show to me is one that is generally well-played start-to-finish by all four band members. They are brilliant, extremely experienced musicians, and near-perfection is "shooting par" for them if you examine their history performing together (even their performances together in any given tour). Differentiating the “below-average” from the “above-average” GREAT Phish shows, for me, really comes down to answering the questions:

(1) is any song's jam truly "must hear" or at least highly recommended, when that jam is compared both with that particular song's improvisational history, and with Phish's glorious improv historically;

(2) are there any songs that have jams that compare favorably with the so-called “top versions” of those songs historically (say, top 20%, unless the song has a short history, in which case, maybe that percentage is higher or lower, as you deem fit);

(3) how are the segues, since they're the most obvious characteristics of Phish sets that demonstrate potentially excellent "flow";

(4) what is the show’s “average song gap,” an objective measure signifying the average number of days between when every song performed had since been performed (the higher the number, the more likely there were significant “bust outs,” regardless of whether you like the songs that were busted out, or not); and,

(5) are there are any other unique characteristics of the show, such as guest musicians, three sets, stage banter, nudity, or Gamehendge?

Analyzing shows in this manner is subjective and imperfect, of course. We can't conjure up every minute of Phish's improvisation over 30 years. But everyone taking the time to read this has at least some sense of the terrain, having explored it before. You may be the “Phish expert” among your friends, or one of them. And all one need do to find an excellent example of why the foregoing guidelines are imperfect is to check out 7/27/2014 MPP: an exceptional, well-above “average-great” Phish show with a strong first set and a spectacular second set, with tight playing and flow (number 3 above) and a few bust-outs (number 4 above) that is also extraordinarily entertaining, but arguably has no “top” or “must-hear” versions of songs (numbers 1 and 2 above), except perhaps the third “Tweezer” jam and the jam out of “NICU.” Yet the entire second set is nevertheless “must hear"!

In any event, this depth of experience with Phish’s music doesn't make you or me "better" at exploring this terrain than anyone else, but it does give us a perspective on it that isn't necessarily "average," or even "great"—except perhaps in terms of years. The “average” Phish fan has seen the band multiple times and is generally knowledgeable about the music, and is at least somewhat opinionated about it, too, in that they probably have certain musical preferences. It is remarkable and to our credit as a fan base that while, on the whole, the band’s most mind-blowing performances over several decades tend to be widely lauded, it is nevertheless true that fans with very similar Phish experience can disagree strongly when it comes to which shows, or which versions of songs (often among the “best” or “top”), they prioritize over others.

Photo © Phish

Last night’s Portsmouth show featured no covers at all, and six tour debuts (“Guelah Papyrus,” “Mountains In The Mist,” and “Meat” in the first set, “Billy Breathes” and “Seven Below” in the second set, and “Lizards” (e)), as well as a fair amount of improvisation, perhaps a bit more than the “average” show when you consider them all over the course of 30 years.

“Gin” opened the show quite well, with Trey leading the way through the jam segment (as he typically does), and with Mike employing a tone with some extra-Lesh in it. Other first set highlights included the jam segment of “It’s Ice,” a Page-driven clavinet-heavy groove; a soulful “Mountains in the Mist,” which had not been performed in nearly four years; the tour debut of “Meat” (requested by a number of fans Page-side who held a variety of creative meat-signs); and a fairly tight “Bowie” set-closer. I say “fairly tight” because, for those who care about such things, Trey was not nailing every note all night. He was batting about .947, which is to say, still pretty good.

Summer '14, like fall '13, has been very strong on the whole, with many recommended jams (see, e.g., the 7/1 Great Woods “Hood,” 7/8 Phili “Fuego,” 7/13 Randall’s “CDT>Light>Tweezer,” and both 7/26’s and 7/27’s second sets). Nearly every show this tour has had something worth hearing from it. Last night’s second set only improved on this remarkable record, with inarguably the third most improvised “Fuego” in history. It is yet another “must-hear” version, and it opened Set Two masterfully, thanks in no small part to Fish and Page.

Following a timid “Jibboo,” a John-Holmes-sizedMeatstick”—easily the funkiest version since the Gorge in 2011, and NYE 2010 for that matter as well—bedazzled the crowd. It is a “top five” version (up there with Cypress and 12/5/99 Rochester, for example), that you should download and listen to as soon as you can, even if you’re not a fan of the song, to hear it for yourself. “Piper” was similarly quite good, before it was abandoned somewhat abruptly into the first “Billy Breathes” since Bader Field in 2012, ninety-five shows ago.

Photo © Andrea Nusinov

The second set concluded with a “solid” 4th Quarter: “Seven Below” (tour debut), “Waste,” a pleasant “BDTNL” (definitely check this version out if you’re a fan of this song!), and a typically good “First Tube” closer. The “Lizards” encore was an old school (and Gamehendgian) treat, much as the “Timber Ho” opener in Portsmouth had been on Tuesday night. Only a sociopath would be disappointed by a “Lizards” encore.

In short, both Portsmouth shows had plenty to love and enjoy, and for those of you who quickly skimmed to the bottom of this piece: check out the “It’s Ice,” “Fuego,” and “Meatstick” from last night's above "average-great" show. $0.02.

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Comments

, comment by FACTSAREUSELESS
FACTSAREUSELESS Wow, what a great job on this recap.

Haven't heard the show yet, though the setlist looks very tasty and inviting.

Your perspective in this piece is warm, inclusive and enlightening. I really appreciate the way you tied together all the different eras and attitudes and left me feeling a great sense of community from it.

Really outstanding and very timely. You've caused me to reevaluate some of my presuppositions, and you did so gracefully.

I must share, however, that I don't recall analyzing any Phish show based upon the prescence or lack of nudity, but I'll keep that in mind going forward.
, comment by Gratefulphish123
Gratefulphish123 Fantastic review, I loved the analysis in the beginning and of course it always helps to have a recap that ties in the concepts brought up in the preamble.

I thought the show was one of the best of summer if not the best of summer (I was foolishly declaring it's status as King of the Iron Throne of phish summer 2014 till #line). Second set had so many great pieces of improv, especially the out of left field type two meatstick which I concur is a must hear (I'm dying to relisten right now)

Thanks for such a great thoughtful review! If your continuing on to tours end have a blast!
, comment by My_cat_died
My_cat_died Great job! I love the perspectives you mention because sometimes we forget to try to see where others are coming from. The beauty of Phish and this community is that there are many sides, many perspectives. Out of the 46 shows that I've seen since August 20, 1993, I will say that 37 of them have been "the best show I've ever seen" (that makes me laugh and is true)! That is the gift that Phish gives. The exploration of the indescribable! The feeling that I just saw the most amazing "thing/show" ever!

I'm not one to go into a show hoping to hear specific songs as it occurred to me sitting in Red Rocks in June of 1994 that it's not what they play, its the way they play it! Since that realization its been easy to tap into that deep pool live experience that I seek, that I think we all seek and accept the experience.

Anyways this is my first post (been lurking for over 20 years) and I just wanted to say I love what all the fans bring to the table here. I also believe that a fan is a fan, no matter when the first experience occurred. There's plenty of Phish at the table for all of us.

Great review, I know this one was tough draw after the past weekend!

See you all in Denver (yes I'm still floating form MPP and I hope you are too).
, comment by chillwig
chillwig sets a new "high" water mark for scare quotes
, comment by bigdudeinthedoorway1
bigdudeinthedoorway1 Awesome review-major kudos.
The first half is beautifully put-my "it" moment was during that Carini last year in Hampton.
The band forever changed for me after that. But what is so great about Phish is while that song is in my top 5 ever-it may not even make other's lists. And that's ok.

Debates are part of this band's charm. It never ends.

Looking for more "it" moments starting Fri-Sun this week. Cannot wait to see em live again-save the nudity!!
, comment by gratefulterp
gratefulterp Nice work, Charlie. Nice to wake up to a recap. And, yes, nudity is exactly why 10/31/94 rates...
, comment by melvindisco
melvindisco Well-written and incredibly perceptive, by a veritable Yeoman of the Recap Industry.
, comment by totals
totals Why no asterisk to notate Japanese lyrics in the Meatstick? I cannotfucking work like this. What do you people all have meat shaped holes in your heads?
, comment by Nissl
Nissl Nice review. Maybe you can link to your criteria in future reviews?

I agree with the above-average conclusion. They were tight all night, on fire for most of the second set, there were quite a few interesting improv sections, and lots of rarities played well. I think this might be my favorite end to end show of the tour after the obvious (MPP2, Randall's 3).

Since we're all going meta here lately: I like your summation of different fans, and I want to suggest yet another perspective on shows. Personally I tend to see the whole thing as a process (or, to quote Trey, a "spiritual practice", though I don't want to go down that path of argument today). I care most about the extent to which they are putting themselves out there, connecting, working through things, trying things, improving. I understand that if they are following this process there will be bumps along the way, moments of limited inspiration, repetition, and friction.

Unfortunately, that perspective isn't a good way to pick out the stuff you'd most want to listen to 3 months per tour. So ranking criteria are natural, and you've suggested good ones. I just sometimes wish the fan community would give more respect to the overall process even when it produces an off-kilter, subpar show. (Which, again, this particular show wasn't.)

Anyway, enjoyed both the review and the chance to vent a little!
, comment by HenryHolland
HenryHolland Some fans prioritize tightly-played, mostly-if-not-wholly composed songs over songs that improvise and the improvisation that they contain

[raises hand] I got in to Phish via the prog rock angle and because I liked their short "pop" songs like Waste, Sleep and so on. I had avoided them for years because of their "Grateful Dead clones who jam for 20 minutes" rep, but I stumbled across Bittersweet Motel on cable one night and what drew me in was Trey playing Sleep in his garage. "Oh, they have a good songwriting thing going on, OK".

It takes all kinds of phans, doesn't it?
, comment by HarborSeal
HarborSeal Excellent review, enjoyed your thoughtful remarks on what really makes a show...

...but, as someone who firmly plants his flag in the "exploratory improv" camp, I'd love to hear more of what you thought about that Fuego. How does it compare to the other two out-there Fuegos? and the other top jams of the summer?
, comment by totals
totals I am jaded vet, show some respect, and I insist that we stick to a basic level of standards here. Include the *Japanese lyrics notation on Meatstick or suffer the consequences of my rage.
, comment by Shoal
Shoal Great review! Thanks
, comment by ZeePhish
ZeePhish Lovely recap, thank you. It was nice to see a bit of thoughtful perspective applied to the "this show / no THIS show" rhubarbs that tend to pop up in the comments sections.

As a native and former resident of Philadelphia, I have one non-Phish related and oh-so-minor question: what in the world is a "Phili"? :)

Thanks for the words and the time spent assembling them!
, comment by drrandy
drrandy Enjoying these reviews from out in Cali, as have not had a chance to see a show in person since last August. Esp. enjoying the last 3 recaps/reviews for their efforts to put the process of analyzing a show in context of the whole everything of Phishtory.

To share a bit of my own perspective, having seen about 58 shows since 3/25/93 and having seen Grateful Dead shows since 1973, I have observed there are many reasons why, in, say a 3 show run, 3 phans can have a different favorite nite. As Icculus points out, on a certain level they are all great, but yes, some are more great than others. Besides different folks preferring different styles, a show can be colored by how the attendee is feeling physically and emotionally, their experiences getting to the show, the people they go to the show with, the phans than surround, where in the venue they are and the expectations they bring to the show (if you REALLY want to hear a particular song, whether or not they play it can color your experience).

But I have also found that a key aspect for me is the dichotomy between listening to a show with a critical/analytical mind vs. merging with the music. If I am listening with my intellectual/discriminating mind, comparing a song to other versions, I am somewhat outside the music, keeping a certain distance. If I can surrender to the flow and merge with the music, I tend to enjoy it much more; the price I pay for that is that a show that seems really great as I experience it may, on repeated listening, reveal itself to be just average great, but that seems a small price to pay for the pleasure of merging with the music. Of course, these approaches are not totally exclusive- I can merge with the music and part of me can still have an objective understanding of how good it really is. But I do find myself generally weaving between these perspectives and wonder how many of my fellow phans can relate to it...

Have not heard last nite's show yet, but based on the descriptions and the setlist it looks right up there with Randall's 3 and MPP 2 as one to hear...

Thanks again!
, comment by drrandy
drrandy @drrandy said:
Enjoying these reviews from out in Cali, as have not had a chance to see a show in person since last August. Esp. enjoying the last 3 recaps/reviews for their efforts to put the process of analyzing a show in context of the whole everything of Phishtory.

To share a bit of my own perspective, having seen about 58 shows since 3/25/93 and having seen Grateful Dead over 400 shows since 1973, I have observed there are many reasons why, in, say a 3 show run, 3 phans can each have a different favorite nite. As Icculus points out, on a certain level they are all great, but yes, some are more great than others. Besides different folks preferring different styles, a show can be colored by how the attendee is feeling physically and emotionally, their experiences getting to the show, the people they go to the show with, the phans that surround, where in the venue they are and the expectations they bring to the show (if you REALLY want to hear a particular song, whether or not they play it can color your experience).

But I have also found that a key aspect for me is the dichotomy between listening to a show with a critical/analytical mind vs. merging with the music. If I am listening with my intellectual/discriminating mind, comparing a song to other versions, I am somewhat outside the music, keeping a certain distance. If I can surrender to the flow and merge with the music, I tend to enjoy it much more; the price I pay for that is that a show that seems really great as I experience it may, on repeated listening, reveal itself to be just average great, but that seems a small price to pay for the pleasure of merging with the music. Of course, these approaches are not totally exclusive- I can merge with the music and part of me can still have an objective understanding of how good it really is. But I do find myself generally weaving between these perspectives and wonder how many of my fellow phans can relate to it...

Have not heard last nite's show yet, but based on the descriptions and the setlist it looks right up there with Randall's 3 and MPP 2 as one to hear...

Thanks again!
, comment by drrandy
drrandy Oops! I was just trying to edit my original post, not repost the whole thing. Is there a way to edit a post once posted? Sorry...
, comment by whatstheuse324
whatstheuse324 Nice review, and well said @drrandy.
, comment by totals
totals Thank you.
, comment by Scott
Scott Great review Charlie, the city misses you.

I'm a little more positive on this show overall because I love the tight jamming in Piper and Seven Below and general tightness in the 2nd set in addition to the Ice, Fuego and Meatstick cited in the review.

Please don't mind me asking, but what does generally well-played start to finish mean? How about near-perfection? I'm not sure I can agree with those characterizations, the first of which sounds weaker than the 2nd.
, comment by Scott
Scott I had much more to say but my message is getting rejected due to a invalid character I can't find... arrrrgh... will try again later
, comment by TheEmperorJoker
TheEmperorJoker This was a really good show. Only thing that kept it from being perfect was the lack of nudity. You need some wang in a show to really show it's special
, comment by FACTSAREUSELESS
FACTSAREUSELESS @TheEmperorJoker....

When I saw you with that naked dude, I couldn't eat my food.
, comment by whatstheuse324
whatstheuse324 Nudity usually delivers a +1 to any show unless you end up in jail (-2) or it's a dude.
, comment by Piper72
Piper72 Unless that dude is Fishman...
, comment by FACTSAREUSELESS
FACTSAREUSELESS Fishman kissed a girl, and he liked it.
, comment by spocksbrain
spocksbrain Great Recap! I love your perspective on how Phish means something different to everybody. I was there, up in the pit both nights; and the energy was uncannily more electric than usual...such a great crowd. Everyone knew Lizards was coming...it was the buzz of the two night stand. The band was having such a great time...like more than usual. Such a spectacular venue...I had never been...I drove thirteen hours there, and let me just say: The juice was worth the squeeze!
, comment by Willsaw
Willsaw "Nearly every show this tour has had something worth hearing from it. "

Exactly. You can't ask for much more than that...but we will
, comment by FACTSAREUSELESS
FACTSAREUSELESS @Willsaw said:
"Nearly every show this tour has had something worth hearing from it. "

Exactly. You can't ask for much more than that...but we will
Yes. Yes, we will.
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